Friday, November 13, 2015

Reaction to the Charlie Hebdo Massacre, Part Two

Hopefully we can hear more from some of the French or Francophile mefites who do have the context.

B-b-but 'Mericans got opinions!

posted by Alvy Ampersand at 8:15 AM on January 8, in thread 145914



It strikes me that you, cotton dress sock, have come into a tinder box and are lighting matches at speed. Unlike the cartoonists you're vilifying, however, your use of a sock puppet indicates you're quite unwilling to face the minor social consequences to your real Mefi account.

posted by gilrain at 9:02 AM on January 8, in thread 145914



It strikes me that you, cotton dress sock, have come into a tinder box and are lighting matches at speed. Unlike the cartoonists you're vilifying, however, your use of a sock puppet indicates you're quite unwilling to face the minor social consequences to your real Mefi account.

I invite you to evaluate the embarrassing volume of output under this account and consider what kind of time I'd have to use another one. Nice ad hominem.

posted by cotton dress sock at 9:06 AM on January 8, in thread 145914



whereas whether or not a certain sliver of the left are narcissists seems to exclusively be an ad hominem charge against a vaguely defined group, and I don't see how it forwards any discussion at all.
posted by maxsparber at 6:28 AM on January 8 [7 favorites +] [!]


Unsurprising.

posted by jayder at 9:07 AM on January 8, in thread 145914



Actually, it's about ethics in french political cartoons.

posted by malocchio at 1:50 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



And I think that's fascist "with us or against us" Bush era neocon bullshit.

Ah, the name-calling always helps improve threads like this. (Does the "fascist" bit mean the thread is now officially godwinned?)

posted by aught at 2:17 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



And I think that's fascist "with us or against us" Bush era neocon bullshit.

Well you couldn't be more wrong, but I've come to expect no less over the course of reading your contribution here.

posted by walrus at 2:20 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



Everybody with their frickin' panties in a twist: Maybe (just maybe) this is just a story without a moral? Consider (for the love of FSM) the possibility that "some insane people murder some mildly annoying people" is not the kind of story that should inform our philosophies of life. No amount of debate will turn this into a meaningful thing. And certainly not this debate. Which, given the normally ridiculously high level of discourse at MF, doesn't bode well for the rest of the planet. D'oh.

So I don't know, but this might be the most rational reaction I've heard so far (translated from German):

"This could never happen at our magazine. We have only 6 editors."
- Tim Wolff, Titanic Magazine

posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 3:24 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



#NotAllIslamists

posted by rr at 3:31 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



It's eerie how closely his remarks resemble the "I condemn the killings, but..." comments coming from liberals in this thread.

The are not liberals, they are leftists, i.e the principle of freedom of speech is less important to them than the principle of ranking moral order based on which rung of the oppression ladder participant identity groups belong to.

posted by dydecker at 5:33 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



That's not a very nice thing to say.

posted by Justinian at 5:39 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



Sort of relevant: Saudi Blogger To Be Publicly Flogged For Insulting Islam
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) รข€” A Saudi blogger who was sentenced last May to 10 years in prison and 1,000 lashes will be publicly flogged for the first time after Friday prayers outside a mosque in the Red Sea coastal city of Jiddah, a person close to his case said Thursday.

Raif Baddawi was sentenced on charges related to accusations that he insulted Islam on a liberal online forum he had created.
[...]
London-based rights group Amnesty International has said that Badawi is to receive 50 lashes once a week for 20 weeks.

posted by Joe in Australia at 8:21 PM on January 8, in thread 145914



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